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Old 18-06-2018, 23:38   #2681   link
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Old 20-06-2018, 17:22   #2682   link
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Tether blijkt, tenminste op dit ogenblik in de tijd (ik spreek me niet uit hoe compliant de manier waarop ze eventueel dit bewerkstelligd hebben), volledig backed te zijn (en meer) door USD.

Da's al 1 black swan potentieel minder
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Old 21-06-2018, 18:27   #2683   link
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Dear GDAX Customer:

On Friday June 29, we say goodbye to GDAX and hello to Coinbase Pro. To take full advantage of this upgrade, we recommend you start using pro.coinbase.com now.

Coinbase Pro is a new interface built on top of the existing GDAX trading engine. As a result, your entire account history and all balances will be shown on Pro. No action is necessary from you.

Any balances in your GDAX wallets will automatically be shown on Coinbase Pro
Any trading history on GDAX will automatically be shown on Coinbase Pro
Accessing GDAX.com after June 29 will result in being redirected to Coinbase Pro
Was GDAX net niet de Coinbase Cheap? Dit klinkt alsof het net een duurdere Coinbase wordt. En Coinbase is dal wel goed vanwege zijn simpelheid en betrouwbaarheid, het is _vreselijk_ duur.
Nuja, well played van CB om die goedkope klanten in hun web te lokken natuurlijk
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Old 21-06-2018, 19:10   #2684   link
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Heb je dan redenen om te denken dat Coinbase Pro duurder gaat zijn dan GDAX?
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Old 21-06-2018, 21:22   #2685   link
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Ik heb nog nooit iets met 'pro' geweten dat goedkoper was
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Old 21-06-2018, 21:30   #2686   link
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Euh acku, dit is gewoon de rebrand van GDAX hoor. Waar de gewone coinbase als een soort broker fungeert is GDAX de exchange. En GDAX heeft als enige grote exchange feeless limit orders.

Ze houden de DB, API & fees en reskinnen (geslaagd) de UI, om de coinbase brand uniform te maken en Paradex (ERC-20 token op coinbase, yay!) te integreren
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Old 22-06-2018, 11:36   #2687   link
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In another blow to the crypto community, Bithumb, one of the largest virtual coin exchanges in Korea, confirmed on Wednesday hacking and theft of virtual assets worth 35 billion won ($31.5 million) following similar loss in another exchange earlier in the month.

Bithumb, the world’s seventh largest cryptocurrency exchange in terms of 24-hour trade volume, announced in a notice that its hot wallet was hacked between the night of June 19 and the morning hours of June 20.

Ripple and other currencies were stolen, the exchange said, advising customers to stop depositing funds for the time being. Deposits and withdrawal services will be halted until the system is fully secured, it said.

The announcement comes just nine days after a smaller South Korean exchange Coinrail said it was robbed of close to 40 billion won worth of digital assets.

Although the damage may not be severe for the size of Bithumb, the latest breach at the exchange vying with market champion Upbit for the top spot in Korea is a worrying incident as Bithumb had boasted of its security practices against cyber threats.

Over the past year, South Korea lost nearly 100 billion won to cyberthieves. In April of last year, Youbit, formerly called Yapizon, lost bitcoins worth 5.5 billion won and filed for bankruptcy after it was hacked for the second time in less than eight months.

http://m.pulsenews.co.kr/view.php?sc...2018&no=392080
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Monacoin, bitcoin gold, zencash, verge and now, litecoin cash.

At least five cryptocurrencies have recently been hit with an attack that used to be more theoretical than actual, all in the last month. In each case, attackers have been able to amass enough computing power to compromise these smaller networks, rearrange their transactions and abscond with millions of dollars in an effort that's perhaps the crypto equivalent of a bank heist.

More surprising, though, may be that so-called 51% attacks are a well-known and dangerous cryptocurrency attack vector.

While there have been some instances of such attacks working successfully in the past, they haven't exactly been all that common. They've been so rare, some technologists have gone as far as to argue miners on certain larger blockchains would never fall victim to one. The age-old (in crypto time) argument? It's too costly and they wouldn't get all that much money out of it.

But that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

http://telegra.ph/Blockchains-Once-F...-Regular-06-08
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Blockchain technology as yet fails to meet the very high demands of a financial market infrastructure. The experiments we carried out with this technology led us to this conclusion. Among the principal limitations are capacity shortages, inefficiency caused by high energy consumption, and a lack of full certainty that a payment is completed. However, blockchain technology could improve a financial market infrastructure's resilience to external attacks, at the expense of its capacity and efficiency.

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Long story short, I convinced them that I painted the Mona Lisa. An excellent situationalist prank. Much avant-garde, so postmodernism.

For this "proof" I provided Verisart with...

An email address
A photo of the Mona Lisa from Wikipedia

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That's it!

That was all that was required. I didn't have to provide them with a public key, a certified copy of my passport, a high resolution copy of the artwork. Nothing.

Because the blockchain is immutable, that "proof" is there forever now. You mustn't make mistakes when irrevocably signing something.

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The Chainalysis data quantifies this distinct shift in the make-up of bitcoin owners from longer-term investors — those who held the asset for more than a year — to short-term investors who have traded more recently, by analysing how regularly coins have changed hands.

Last November — before December’s pricing peak — the amount of bitcoin held for investment was roughly three times that held by traders.

However, by April 2018, the data show the amount held by investors — about 6m bitcoin — was much closer to the amount held by short-term speculators, with 5.1m bitcoin.

Indeed, Chainalysis estimates that longer-term holders sold at least $30bn worth of bitcoin to new speculators over the December to April period, with half of this movement taking place in December alone.


“This was an exceptional transfer of wealth,” says Philip Gradwell, Chainalysis’ chief economist, who dubs the past six months as bitcoin’s “liquidity event”.

Mr Gradwell argues that this sudden injection of liquidity — the amount of bitcoin available for trading rose by close to 60 per cent over that period — has been a “fundamental driver” behind the recent price decline. At the same time, bitcoin trading volumes have now fallen in tandem with the prices, from close to $4bn daily in December to $1bn today.

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Chainalysis notes that the “vast majority” of transactions it analysed showed bitcoin being received from exchanges and rarely sent to merchant services to pay for goods or services.

“Speculation remains the primary use case for these digital assets; merchant or institutional adoption does not appear to be a primary driver of price,” says Preston Byrne, an English structured finance lawyer and cryptocurrency observer.

Given this breakdown in bitcoin owners, most market watchers do not rule out another rapid price run-up. However, they say this would likely be the random movement of pure speculation or market manipulation rather than anything else.

https://www.ft.com/content/29259448-...b-4acfcfb08c11
Proficiat aan iedereen die de laatste zes maand heeft ingekocht en de holders heeft rijkgemaakt.
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Old 22-06-2018, 11:40   #2688   link
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van die mensen die extreem links als even gevaarlijk beschouwen als extreem rechts krijg ik toch ook de wubbes ze
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Old 22-06-2018, 12:03   #2689   link
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Tether blijkt, tenminste op dit ogenblik in de tijd (ik spreek me niet uit hoe compliant de manier waarop ze eventueel dit bewerkstelligd hebben), volledig backed te zijn (en meer) door USD.

Da's al 1 black swan potentieel minder
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FSS is not an accounting firm and did not perform the above review and confirmations using Generally Accepted Accounting Principles [...] FSS has assumed, without further inquiry, that the bank personnel providing the confirmations were duly authorized to provide such confirmations, and that the confirmations were correct.”
Dus alweer geen normale audit maar hun advocaat die beweert dat ze geld op hun bankrekening hebben staan.

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Using algorithms to analyze the blockchain data, we find that purchases with Tether are timed following market downturns and result in sizable increases in Bitcoin prices. Less than 1 per cent of hours with such heavy Tether transactions are associated with 50 per cent of the meteoric rise in Bitcoin and 64 per cent of other top cryptocurrencies. The flow clusters below round prices, induces asymmetric autocorrelations in Bitcoin, and suggests incomplete Tether backing before month-ends. These patterns cannot be explained by investor demand proxies but are most consistent with the supply-based hypothesis where Tether is used to provide price support and manipulate cryptocurrency prices.

...we find that Tether has a significant impact on the cryptocurrency market.

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Griffin’s paper describes several patterns uncovered in a yearlong period. First it found that flows weren’t symmetric. When Bitcoin’s price fell, purchases with Tether tended to increase, helping to reverse the decline. But during times when Bitcoin rose, Griffin said he didn’t see the reverse occur. That’s “suggestive of Tether being used to protect Bitcoin prices during downturns,” he wrote.

He zeroed in on 87 of the largest purchases of Bitcoin with Tether from March 2017 to March 2018. In the cases examined, new Tether had been issued within the prior three days, and Bitcoin’s price had fallen in the prior hour. What followed were increases in Bitcoin’s price -- and those gains added up.

Even though the 87 examples account for less than 1 percent of the time period examined, they amounted to about 50 percent of Bitcoin’s compounded return over that year. In comparison, 10,000 simulations Griffin and Shams ran demonstrated “that this behavior never occurs randomly,” they wrote.

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Old 22-06-2018, 12:04   #2690   link
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If history is any guide, cryptocurrencies will replace money in the same way cars replaced horses.
Who can forget how people bought millions of cars in the early 1900s, only to keep them in the garage, wait for car prices to moon, and argue about what cars were really for.
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Old 22-06-2018, 12:53   #2691   link
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Old 22-06-2018, 13:55   #2692   link
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Bitcoin tumbles 9% after Japan watchdog orders exchanges to beef up practices against money laundering

Ook zeker niet louche dat een "munt" crasht als er maatregelen komen tegen witwaspraktijken
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Old 22-06-2018, 17:35   #2694   link
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Bitcoin moet eigenlijk gewoon zo snel mogelijk dood liefst, heeft echt maar een zéér beperkte toegevoegde waarde voor het ecosysteem. De realiteit is echter dat heel de markt er nog steeds aanhangt door de liquiditeit van die markt en de bijhorende arbitrage, which is fucked.
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Old 22-06-2018, 23:14   #2696   link
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Bitcoin moet eigenlijk gewoon zo snel mogelijk dood liefst, heeft echt maar een zéér beperkte toegevoegde waarde voor het ecosysteem. De realiteit is echter dat heel de markt er nog steeds aanhangt door de liquiditeit van die markt en de bijhorende arbitrage, which is fucked.
De realiteit is dat elke altcoin, van de eerste tot de laatste, nog veel minder voorstelt. Als de enigste functie is om te dienen als beleggingsvehikel, maakt het ook geen hol uit wat de "waarde" van iets is. Als er morgen iemand kak futures op Wallstreet opstart, gaat daar even goed honderd man op springen om op te speculeren.

(En ja, kak heeft meer waarde dan Bitcoin als bemesting, twas maar een lol.)
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De realiteit is dat elke altcoin, van de eerste tot de laatste, nog veel minder voorstelt. Als de enigste functie is om te dienen als beleggingsvehikel, maakt het ook geen hol uit wat de "waarde" van iets is. Als er morgen iemand kak futures op Wallstreet opstart, gaat daar even goed honderd man op springen om op te speculeren.

(En ja, kak heeft meer waarde dan Bitcoin als bemesting, twas maar een lol.)
En dat is het punt waarop jij, als een soort inversed bitcoin maximalist, nu eenmaal permanent de bal lijkt mis te slaan
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Old 27-06-2018, 12:05   #2698   link
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Duidelijk, simpel PowerPoint overzicht van Blockchain door David Gerard. Ideaal als je zo weinig mogelijk wilt lezen, Rooz:

https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain...pe-to-reality/

Deze vergen wat meer moeite, sorry:

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Blockchain is not only crappy technology but a bad vision for the future

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A decentralized, tamper-proof repository sounds like a great way to audit where your mango comes from, how fresh it is, and whether it has been sprayed with pesticides or not. But actually, laws on food labeling, nonprofit or government inspectors, an independent, trusted free press, empowered workers who trust whistleblower protections, credible grocery stores, your local nonprofit farmer’s market, and so on, do a way better job. People who actually care about food safety do not adopt blockchain because trusted is better than trustless. Blockchain’s technology mess exposes its metaphor mess — a software engineer pointing out that storing the data a sequence of small hashed files won’t get the mango-pickers to accurately report whether they sprayed pesticides is also pointing out why peer-to-peer interaction with no regulations, norms, middlemen, or trusted parties is actually a bad way to empower people.

Like the farmer’s market or the organic labeling standard, so many real ideas are hiding in plain sight. Do you wish there was a type of financial institution that was secure and well-regulated in all the traditional ways, but also has the integrity of being people-powered? A credit union’s members elect its directors, and the transaction-processing revenue is divided up among the members. Move your money! Prefer a deflationary monetary policy? Central bankers are appointed by elected leaders. Want to make elections more secure and democratic? Help write open source voting software, go out and register voters, or volunteer as an election observer here or abroad! Wish there was a trusted e-book delivery service that charged lower transaction fees and distributed more of the earnings to the authors? You can already consider stated payout rates when you buy music or books, buy directly from the authors, or start your own e-book site that’s even better than what’s out there!

Projects based on the elimination of trust have failed to capture customers’ interest because trust is actually so damn valuable. A lawless and mistrustful world where self-interest is the only principle and paranoia is the only source of safety is a not a paradise but a crypto-medieval hellhole.

As a society, and as technologists and entrepreneurs in particular, we’re going to have to get good at cooperating — at building trust, and, at being trustworthy. Instead of directing resources to the elimination of trust, we should direct our resources to the creation of trust—whether we use a long series of sequentially hashed files as our storage medium or not.

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Why Blockchain is Hard

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Most industries are not like this. Most industries require new features or upgrades and the freedom to change and expand as necessary. Given that blockchains are hard to upgrade, hard to change and hard to scale, most industries don’t have much use for a blockchain.

The one exception we’ve found is money. Unlike most industrial use cases, money is better if it doesn’t change. Immutability and difficulty in changing the rules is a positive for money and not a detriment. This is why blockchain is the right tool for the job when it comes to Bitcoin.

What’s clear is that a lot of companies looking to use the blockchain are not really wanting a blockchain at all, but rather IT upgrades to their particular industry. This is all well and good, but using the word “blockchain” to get there is dishonest and overselling its capability.

Blockchain is a popular term these days and unfortunately, this “blockchain not Bitcoin” meme won’t die. If you are a centralized service, a blockchain doesn’t get you anything that you can’t do a thousand times cheaper with a centralized database. If you are a decentralized service, then you’re probably fooling yourself and not thinking about the single points of failure that exist in your system. There wouldn’t be a “you” at all in a truly decentralized service.
Biggest joke in this entire article

Back in the early 2000’s, there was a push by a lot of executives in the tech industry to use Java and XML. Despite these two things being tools and not actual products, many executives insisted on their use, no matter how poor the fit was to what their engineers were trying to achieve. Blockchain is very much like that. Focus on the problems you’re solving and the tools will make themselves readily apparent. Focus on tools that you want to use and you’ll end up making Rube Goldberg machines that don’t do anything particularly well.

In a sense, current conceptions of blockchain are trying to do the impossible. They want the security of a decentralized system with the control of a centralized one. The desire is the best of both worlds, but what they end up getting is the worst of both worlds. You get the costs and difficulty of a decentralized system with the failure modes of a centralized one.

Blockchain is used way too much as a buzzword to sell a lot of useless snake oil. The faster we get rid of the hype, the better off long-term we’ll all be.

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Initial Coin Scams

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Beyond facilitating illegal activity, crypto-tokens obfuscate the price-discovery benefits that come when a single currency operates as a unit of account. In a crypto-utopia, every single good and service would have its own distinct token, and average consumers would have no way to judge the relative prices of different – or even similar – goods and services. Nor would they have any real certainty about a token’s purchasing power, given the volatility of crypto-token prices.

Imagine living in a country where instead of simply using the national currency, you had to rely on 200 other world currencies to purchase different goods and services. There would be widespread price confusion, and you would have to eat the cost of converting one volatile currency into another every time you wanted to buy anything.

The fact that everyone within a given country or jurisdiction uses the same currency is precisely what gives money its value. Money is a public good that allows individuals to enter into free exchange without having to resort to the kind of imprecise, inefficient bartering on which traditional societies depended.

That is precisely where the ICO charlatans would effectively take us – not to the futuristic world of “The Jetsons,” but to the modern Stone Age world of “The Flintstones” where all transactions occur through the barter of different tokens or goods. It is time to recognize their utopian rhetoric for what it is: self-serving nonsense meant to separate credulous investors from their hard-earned savings.

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Old 27-06-2018, 12:45   #2699   link
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Peep, het is ver gekomen als ge nu al artikels van notoire Bitcoin maximalisten gaat posten om uw punt te staven
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Old 27-06-2018, 15:19   #2700   link
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Die artikels passeerden hier ook, zijn inderdaad vanuit de BTC hoek. Alles wat niet currency is, is slecht. Grappig hoe ze zichzelf de poten vanonder de stoel zagen. Tuur De Meester is uw vriend!
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