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Old 29-08-2019, 15:27   #4901   link
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Old 30-08-2019, 18:03   #4902   link
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PEGI's stance on the NBA 2K20 controvery
With the recent controversy over NBA 2K20's casino trailer I decided to contact PEGI to get their reasoning for the 3+ age rating. Sorry if this isn't the right place for this, but I thought it was worth sharing:

We have seen the announcement trailer of NBA 2K20 and noticed the controversy it has caused. We feel it is important to carefully explain when certain content is triggering the gambling descriptor in the PEGI system, but also to show when it does not at this moment.

A video game gets the gambling content descriptor if it contains moving images that encourage and/or teach the use of games of chance that are played/carried out as a traditional means of gambling.

We use a help text to clarify this in more detail: This refers to types of betting or gambling for money that is normally played/carried out in casinos, gambling halls, racetracks. This does not cover games where betting or gambling is simply part of the general storyline. The game must actually teach the player how to gamble or bet and/or encourage the player to want to gamble or bet for money in real life.

For example, this will include games that teach the player how to play card games that are usually played for money or how to play the odds in horse racing.

It is important to stress that the controversial imagery played a central role in the trailer, but it may not necessarily do so in the game, which has not yet been released.

At this point in time, PEGI can only comment on the trailer that has been made publicly available.

The trailer includes imagery that is generally known from casinos (wheel of fortune, slot machines). Using this sort of mechanic to select an item, or character, or action by chance is not the same as teaching how to gamble for money in a casino. These differences currently prevent us from applying the gambling descriptor. But we are very aware that it may get too close for comfort for some people, and that is part of an internal discussion that PEGI is having for the moment. The games industry is evolving constantly (and rapidly in recent years). As a rating organisation, we need to ensure that these developments are reflected in our classification criteria. We do not base our decisions on the content of a single trailer, but we will properly assess how the rating system (and the video games industry in general) should address these concerns.

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Old 02-09-2019, 21:22   #4903   link
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https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/201...owka-has-died/

Uit verveling was ik mij vandaag wat gaan verdiepen in dit verhaal. Wat een zotte internet beerput is dit eigenlijk wel niet. Nog iemand die dit gevolgd heeft? Ik wil zeker geen partij kiezen, daarvoor zijn er te weinig details. En we hebben er eigenlijk ook geen zaken mee.

Maar damn. Internet kan soms een cruel plaats zijn

https://steamcommunity.com/app/481510/discussions/
https://www.reddit.com/r/NightInTheWoods/ (al wordt hier alles grotendeels verwijderd)
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Old 03-09-2019, 09:15   #4904   link
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Nee. Dus als ik het goed lees pleegt hij zelfmoord na de beschuldigingen van ongepast gedrag en seksuele intimidatie, gedrag die hij zelf en zijn familie blijkbaar deels erkennen en waar hij in behandeling voor was.
En nu blamen de internet community de victim Zoe Quinn voor zijn dood?
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Old 03-09-2019, 09:35   #4905   link
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Zoe Quinn named herself after Harley Quinn
This is where it comes back to Zoe Quinn. She did not kill Alec Holowka. But she owes her entire present-day career to riding the wave of social media and political activism that has no respect for the above principles.

Dozens of independent accounts exist of her questionable behavior. From reportedly fabricating sexual assaults, claiming that she had once been assaulted and stabbed the attacker to death, to systematic emotional abuse, detailed by her former boyfriend Eron Gjoni, to accepting $85,000 in funding money for a game that she has not begun to produce, to being a keen member of a message board that specialized on online harassment.

A picture emerges of someone manipulative, ruthless, vindictive, self-serving, and unreliable. Of course, the accusations against her come with the very same caveats as the ones she herself makes, but the point is that her own reputation and credibility are no better than those of her accusers.

Yet, because she is a woman and holds ultra-progressive political beliefs, Quinn is given a protective aura – there are literally sites on the internet that go through every one of the claims about any negative parts of her behavior. She has never been written up in a mainstream media profile as anything but a hero.

Meanwhile, Quinn wields social media as her sword. Collective shaming, timely accusations, jumping on right-on causes (in 2017 Quinn declared that she is to be referred to as “they”), demonization of her adversaries and ceaseless attention-seeking. Main thing, always stay relevant, capture the zeitgeist.

Quinn has not taken any responsibility for what has happened – not even a word of sympathy or regret towards Holowka, or how the story has played out. But soon she will emerge again, and none of this will be her fault, and she will be declared by all to be the real victim here. And the cycle will continue.
Mja victim of 'victim', wie zal het zeggen.
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Old 03-09-2019, 09:38   #4906   link
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Nee. Dus als ik het goed lees pleegt hij zelfmoord na de beschuldigingen van ongepast gedrag en seksuele intimidatie, gedrag die hij zelf en zijn familie blijkbaar deels erkennen en waar hij in behandeling voor was.
En nu blamen de internet community de victim Zoe Quinn voor zijn dood?
Kvind dat echt zot hoe zo'n dingen altijd compleet overboord gaan. Waarom moeten al die nerds daar persé een flame war van maken op social media.
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:37   #4907   link
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En we hebben er eigenlijk ook geen zaken mee.
daar had ge feitelijk mogen stoppen

skip! 10 foot pole etc
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y'all motherfuckers are crazy
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:46   #4908   link
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Old 03-09-2019, 11:20   #4909   link
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daar had ge feitelijk mogen stoppen

skip! 10 foot pole etc
Daarom dat ik er mij ook niet over uitspreek he. Het is gewoon opvallen hoeveel mensen de nood hebben om het wél te doen. Het ging niet meteen over de gebeurtenis, wel over de reacties
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:10   #4910   link
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ja nee da weet ik wel ze

kbedoelde feitelijk den bagger en al die 'meningen' op zich lezen. ik deed da vroeger veel en kben feitelijk gelukkiger nu ik er gewoon voorbij scroll
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:38   #4911   link
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Wie leest nu de meningen als je er zelf geen wilt spuien ?
Rare radje.
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:54   #4912   link
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Ik heb mij zo laten vangen met heel dienen projared aids.

Echt nooit meer, en japisee had mij nochtans gewaarschuwd
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Old 11-09-2019, 15:38   #4913   link
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Damn dude. Dat ziet er allemaal bijna te goed uit om waar te zijn.
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Old 16-09-2019, 04:22   #4914   link
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Idd. All kinds of los in mn broek. Pls dont suck.
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